Having interviewed so many designers by now, we could probably write a scholarly paper on designers with dyslexia because so many people we interview suffered through school with their intensely visual rather than verbal minds and Brett Beldock is one of them. We happened to be talking about schools and learning issues on the way in to her Upper East Side apartment and our first questions naturally turned to the subject.
We were talking about schools on the way in: where did you go to school?
I went to the Little Red Schoolhouse. I was the only Upper East Sider there.
Why did you go there then?
My mother’s best friend lived on MacDougal Alley and she died, so my mother decided that she had to be downtown with them for the first year and that I should be downtown at school with them. I ended up staying there until they found out, when I was 12, that I couldn’t read. When all my friends were leaving and applying to Dalton, they said, “Mrs. Beldock, she paints beautifully and she speaks beautifully but did you know your child can’t read?”
Didn’t it occur to them to let your parents know this before you were 12?
But the Little Red didn’t care. If you don’t like reading, make models.
So where did you end up going?
I went to this disgusting little school called Bentley. It’s closed down now. And I went to college. I only wanted to go to Wheaton because there was … a boy. I went to France chasing him … I worked every summer at Bendel’s and I idolized Gerry Stutz and so I spent the whole year at Wheaton with my head in a grey turban. All the other girls were in green corduroy and they thought I was a weirdo. I finally go to Little Red. I transferred to Parsons and originally I was a fashion designer.
Oh yes, tell us about that.
I had my own knitwear line at Saks. It started at a [firm] called Begedor in Israel. It was a leather company in 1979. It was the hottest leather company—Mrs. Onassis [i.e. Jackie Kennedy] wore their leather trench coat. I spent 11 years of my life designing [clothes].
So why did you switch to interior design?
Because I had no life. I spent so much time in Asia that I didn’t have a life. And I was on Broadway—I wasn’t on Seventh Avenue. It got to the point where I was design director of Russ Togs.
Oh my God, that’s sad!
Yeah, pull-on knit pants. The last straw was that this company came to see me and I actually wanted to buy their fabrics, this cashmere that was $72 a yard and I had to say, well I’m at Russ Togs and our fabric is $3 a yard—I said to myself, I’ve gotta to get out of here! [Suddenly leans forward and points to the tape recorders] This is on? [Shrieks] I had no idea!! I thought you were just talking to me!! I thought it was a camera!! [Waves and peers into the recorders] Hi! How are you? Oh my God!
We are just talking to you. The red light and the cassette wheels going round and round are the clues. Anyway how did you get the design jobs?
Because I’m just like a little catfish. I just get out there and make the connections and I work and work and work. You keep meeting people. I’ve been very fortunate and I just always get work.
So what does it take to get the work? You’re very talkative—that helps! You have to have a good personality.
[Laughs] Well, thank you. I’m not a household name because there is a quirkiness about me, so not everybody gets me and likes me and I know that. And the other thing is that my clients are all the same clients I had when I started and most of them do not want to get published.
Your wallpaper is quirky but your rooms are not necessarily so.
I can’t get my clients to buy the wallpaper.
Sian: Well, this would make me nervous, this wallpaper [pointing to the wallpaper in the living room]
Well, for this actually, I’m the guinea pig. When I do it again, I’m going to do it big.
[This does not seem to reassure Sian]
You teach at Parsons. What’s the key to being a good teacher?
I think everything has to have a story. For example one of my assistants at Parsons said to me “I cannot believe I have to take a class in Indian art.” I said, “You don’t want to take a class in Indian art?” I told her all about my trip to India and how walking down the street, every arch, every window, every building … I explained that every single thing you see is something you can use in your design, all those little things, the way a sign is written: Honk If I’m Going Too Slow … there might be something in the way that’s written that you’ll use forever.
You strike me as being unguarded, which makes you receptive and open.
I am open to everything except for going in the ocean at night.
That is scary! Do you worry about money?
Never. Because something comes along. With all the things that have happened in the world, you say to yourself, you know what? This is just a pillow. I have been saving and donating to various things. Every Tuesday my accountant comes in and says we can’t do this, $10 to this one, $10 to that one but we must because it’s real.
What do you do when you’re not thinking about design?
I love travel. We just got back from London. We went to London because I wanted to see Sir John Soane’s house. We met these clients of mine who I totally, totally adore. We went to the opera and John [her partner] and I were sitting up so high that I could literally touch the gold leaf on the ceiling—I could tell you what the pattern is—and the [clients] were sitting in their box. I decided I wanted to look pretty for the show and I wore my contacts. At the interval Catherine said to me [puts on a very good British accent] “Wasn’t that amazing? It would never happen in Europe, running around the stage like that!” I said, “Running around the stage like what?” She said to me “Brett! They had no clothes on for twenty minutes.” And I hadn’t seen a thing.
Which opera was that!?
There was no reason for it … it was Aida.
Incidentally, you win the prize for the best British accent we’ve heard yet. Do you do any other accents?
I do, I do a lot … I have an ear.